Liz-Enzi

Liz Cheney slams new poll showing huge Mike Enzi lead in Wyoming U.S. Senate race

2013-11-14T08:00:00Z Liz Cheney slams new poll showing huge Mike Enzi lead in Wyoming U.S. Senate raceBy KYLE ROERINK Star-Tribune staff writer Casper Star-Tribune Online

The results of a new poll paid for by a super PAC supporting Wyoming U.S. Sen. Mike Enzi weren’t surprising.

Pollster Bob Wickers reported that of 400 likely 2014 Republican primary voters, 69 percent supported Enzi over Cheney, the daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney who is trying to oust the three-term incumbent.

The results showed Cheney only had 17 percent of support from those polled.

Wickers has long-standing ties to Wyoming. He worked for state Treasurer Mark Gordon’s 2008 congressional campaign and state legislator Colin Simpson’s 2010 gubernatorial campaign.

The Cheney camp called it a phony poll conducted by a “well-known pay-for-say” group.

Wickers did not respond to Star-Tribune emails asking for details about the poll.

American Principles Fund, a super PAC run by the daughter of former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, paid for the polls. The poll results come weeks after the pro-Enzi PAC ran a string of politically-charged ads in Wyoming that took creative license with clips of Cheney talking about gay marriage on MSNBC.

Polls conducted by Wickers haven’t been the most reliable barometer of elections in the past, said Brittany Wells, Cheney for Wyoming spokeswoman.

Wickers’ firm conducted a poll that had Republican Senate candidate David Dewhurst leading now-Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, 51 to 16 a few weeks prior to election day in 2012.   

“Considering that history,” Wells said, “we feel very good about the chances of seeing Liz Cheney elected to the U.S. Senate next year.”

Even though the funding for the polls signifies close ties to the Enzi camp, the senator’s supporters aren’t doubtful about the results.

The same pollster had Enzi up on Cheney 61 percent to 21 percent in August — weeks before American Principles Fund got involved in the election.

“I don’t really know the pollster all that well, but even if he’s off by 25 points, Mike Enzi would still be ahead by 27,” said Bill Cubin, co-founder of Wyoming’s Own, a super PAC supporting Enzi. “There’s still a lot of time, and a lot can happen, but I’m starting to smell a blowout.”

Enzi's campaign team, which is independent of the American Principles Fund and the pollster, said the senator has worked hard to gain the trust of Wyomingites.

"Mike remains as committed as always to doing his job well -- fighting to stop Obamacare and the war on coal and working to keep the federal government out of the lives of Wyoming citizens," said Enzi for Wyoming spokeswoman Kristin Walker.

A poll conducted independently of the American Principles Fund was released in the weeks after the race began in July. Enzi had a 34 percent lead over Cheney with 55 percent of likely Republican primary voters choosing him and 21 percent supporting Cheney in a poll of 422 likely Republican primary voters done by Conservative Intel.

A pollster’s record of accuracy is the most important thing, said Andrew Garner, assistant professor in the political science department at the University of Wyoming.

Garner was skeptical when he heard Enzi jumped 12 points in the polls since August.

Pollsters have no incentive to cook the books, he said.

“They make a lot of money conducting polls on a reputation of accuracy,” he said. “Any time they do anything that would question their accuracy or objectivity of their polling methods would be disastrous.”

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  1. Wyoite
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    Wyoite - November 18, 2013 6:06 pm
    This is only a race in the eyes of the Trib.

    The best thing Enzi can do is simply ignore the Chihuahua from Virginia. It's a mistake to even acknowledge he has an opponent and dignify her with attack ads.

    Everyone needs to ignore her and she will go back to where she came from.
  2. Sample307
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    Sample307 - November 15, 2013 11:35 am
    Ha ha. See, that just proves it's a ploy. This pollster was wrong by 50 points in the Ted Cruz race and was touting his numbers to "disillusion" Cruz and affect fundraising.http://blog.chron.com/texaspolitics/2012/05/dewhurst-wins/. It's an unethical push poll trick.

    Same Huckabee SuperPac, same fake poll numbers. Yes, this same pollster said Cruz was down 51 to 16, and then Cruz won by 14.
  3. BeeWills
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    BeeWills - November 15, 2013 7:04 am
    What does Cheney hope to gain here? She'll get trounced, flattened and rick-rolled by Enzi. Is Liz disillusioned? Promised something in return for a massive losing effort? If a candidate needs to hang their hat with the TEA party right out of the gate, they've already lost. Liz, we know that your California team reads this and will relay all comments to you...so, READ THIS - STEP ASIDE NOW to stop any further embarrassment to yourself and the State of Wyoming
  4. Kool Kat
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    Kool Kat - November 14, 2013 5:19 pm
    what, its a continuing issue that has not been voted on yet, supported by Enzi/Obama. I'm flogging it like I have with another bad law, ACA/Obamacare. Destructive laws are just that, ill advised and untested for public benefit. But I don't expect some folks to understand that.
  5. whatever
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    whatever - November 14, 2013 4:15 pm
    KK, then explain why you felt it necessary to add "Obama's internet tax incentive buddy" to your screed if it was all about the polling?

    sorry but you've been flogging the Enzi Internet tax horse for too long. I might have been born yesterday but I stayed up all night
  6. jc45
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    jc45 - November 14, 2013 2:40 pm
    A few weeks ago I was asked to take part in a telephone poll pertaining to the Enzi/Cheney race. Since I have not made any decision on the election I answered the poll trying to not purposely favor either candidate, after several questions it was obvious that the poll was slanted toward Liz Cheney. Every time I answered a question that favored Enzi, I was told "yes but did you know this about Enzi." After several very biased questions, I hung up. It seems to me that both sides use the same tactics.
  7. John316-1954
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    John316-1954 - November 14, 2013 1:52 pm
    Remember about 2 months ago we had reports that some polling organization was conducting a "push poll" against Liz Cheney? In other words, an unethical pollster was calling into our state and saying purposely false things like: Liz Cheney is for abortion, so are you in favor of Liz Cheney? Nobody ever reported the results of that poll and Enzi renounced it.

    So this is that push poll. And now we know for certain it's the Huckabee group SuperPac affiiliated with Enzi who did it. And we also know that the same sham pollster also publicly predicted Ted Cruz would lose by 36 just a few weeks before Ted Cruz won by 14 Indeed, the pollster Wicker bragged that Ted Cruz "couldn't win" in his press release. http://blog.chron.com/texaspolitics/2012/05/dewhurst-wins/.

    And Wicker's "poll" was off by 50 points. Total sham.

    This is a political game. Try to spread purposely false polling data to show your opponent is way behind.
  8. Kool Kat
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    Kool Kat - November 14, 2013 1:16 pm
    whatever, I kept within the subject Enza, with Wickers and Gordon as the story goes. I'd like to stay on topic.
  9. whatever
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    whatever - November 14, 2013 1:08 pm
    Kool Kat, you see, your posts meander so much you can't follow them yourself. so just to remind you;

    From your earlier post:
    (Obama's internet tax incentive buddy), that was not even looked at by a Conservative Congress.

  10. jc45
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    jc45 - November 14, 2013 12:38 pm
    I remember last year that Fox News said that all of the polls that showed Pres. Obama leading Mr. Romney were biased and wrong and that Fox's poll was the only unbiased and accurate one. Fox was proven very wrong.
    Argue all you want about the accuracy of any poll but there is only one that counts and that will be taken on election day.
  11. Kool Kat
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    Kool Kat - November 14, 2013 11:57 am
    What does Marketplace Fairness Act have to do with Pollster Bob Wickers a democrat along with (former democrat) Mark Gordon? As I only bad polls of past in relation to this story and Pollster Bob Wickers.
  12. whatever
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    whatever - November 14, 2013 11:35 am
    another day, another fact-free post from Kook Kat. The Marketplace Fairness Act WAS taken up by congress and passed in the senate. 20 republicans voted for it. It was introduced in the House with more than 20 republican co-sponsors but has yet to make it out of committee.
    In many polls, 70% or more do support single payer healthcare. In spite of your bland and uninformed pronouncements, the ACA is not government controlled healthcare, it cedes too much control to the insurance industry to be that.
    Wasn't it just a year ago that all you conservatives were claiming all the polls were skewed? How'd that turn out for ya?
  13. side oiler
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    side oiler - November 14, 2013 11:00 am
    This is turning into another GOP dog and pony show with hordes of brainwashed voters as the audience.
  14. Kool Kat
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    Kool Kat - November 14, 2013 10:51 am
    Wait a minute, isn't Pollster Bob Wickers a democrat when Mark Gordon ran for Congress? Then Treasurer Mark Gordon grew wise enough to place an (R) next to his name to win Wyoming State Treasure's Office.
    As it is well known that liberal/democrats prefer Enzi (Obama's internet tax incentive buddy), that was not even looked at by a Conservative Congress. Is this the same guy that supported the RINO Collin Simpson on his run for Governorship?

    I don't know about anyone else but, I smell an Obama style use of political polling in support of Enzi. Remember how Obama had a poll showing 70% of all Americans wanted Government Controlled Healthcare?
    Hind sight also shows that poll was a good 30% plus in error, from what we see today. If the pollsters want to do justice, be sure you show 100% conservatives or Republicans polled, since the winner has to come from the Republican Primaries. With no opposition.
  15. Cody Coyote
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    Cody Coyote - November 14, 2013 9:27 am
    Lizzie and her camp know they cannot win on merits, issues, and her " Wyomingness ". So they have no choice but to revert to negative campaigning , outside influences, and simply BUYING her seat in the Senate. They'll collectively spend north of $ 10 million to buy a Senate seat that pays $ 175,000 per year ( just barely a million bucks for the entire 6-year term ) , about the same as a local school superintendent in Wyoming.

    If Dark Money dollars were gallons of water, Wyoming will be positively flooding come summer...
  16. Tom's views
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    Tom's views - November 14, 2013 8:50 am
    This same pollster projected that Ted Cruz would lose by 36 but then Ted Cruz won by 14. So his track record shows that he was off by 50% in his most recent campaign against a conservative challenger.

    This sounds like some kind of lame scheme to me.
  17. jackel
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    jackel - November 14, 2013 8:30 am
    Well like Christmas the season has begun, with a poll of who, what , where and how. Now today we will experience another ruddant T.V. ad to get the ball rolling. Why not just E-mail or place a blog upon the facebook each week, there is where the eyes of Wyoming and America reside.
    In the two candidates I see no real value anymore, other than one has had eighteen years and whats to make it 24 and the other has new blood dragging old coat tails. Then there are the ones trying to decide do I run.
    Would not be great if an open primary was held in Wyoming, no more party lines, it would sure mess-up the polls and make some interesting super bowl commercial only on the political side. Let the games begin and may the best money win.
  18. John316-1954
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    John316-1954 - November 14, 2013 8:28 am
    Hmm, it seems this is a typical incumbent tactic these days. Consider recent history: In May 2012, the same pollster published results showing former Texas Lieutenant Governor David Dewhurst leading Ted Cruz 51 to 16. A press release was then issued saying: “The results indicated the race is out of reach for Ted Cruz . . .The perception of grassroots enthusiasm on the part of the Cruz campaign appears to be nothing more than an illusion.” . http://blog.chron.com/texaspolitics/2012/05/dewhurst-wins/.
    About two months later, in July 2012, Ted Cruz won in the run off against Dewhurst by 14 points. It was not even close. So this pollster was wrong by 50 points in the Ted Cruz race. In other words, it wasn't anything close to a genuine poll. The same playbook is being used here. In fact, it is the same people from the same losing Texas campaign again using the same playbook. It's the same pollster, supported by the same out-of state PAC.
  19. rigrat
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    rigrat - November 14, 2013 8:27 am
    Why anyone would support another Cheney is bewildering at best.The race hasn't started and the wannabe contestants are so far out there even sunshine can't be piped to them.Wyoming needs fresh meat alright,but not this kind.
  20. John316-1954
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    John316-1954 - November 14, 2013 8:26 am
    Hmm, it seems this is a typical incumbent trick these days. Consider recent history:

    In May 2012, the same pollster published results showing former Texas Lieutenant Governor David Dewhurst leading Ted Cruz 51 to 16. A press release was then issued saying: “The results indicated the race is out of reach for Ted Cruz . . .The perception of grassroots enthusiasm on the part of the Cruz campaign appears to be nothing more than an illusion.” . http://blog.chron.com/texaspolitics/2012/05/dewhurst-wins/.

    About two months later, in July 2012, Ted Cruz won in the run off against Dewhurst by 14 points. It was not even close. So this pollster was wrong by 50 points in the Ted Cruz race. In other words, it wasn't anything close to a genuine poll.

    The same playbook is being used here. In fact, it is the same people from the same losing Texas campaign again using the same playbook. It's the same pollster, supported by the same out-of state PAC.
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